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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 30 @ 10:40 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Where Do Flyers Rank: Past, Present and Future
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 30 @ 10:45 AM ET
Others have built championship caliber teams at least partially via tanking and/or moving or threatening to move their franchise to ransom a taxpayer-funded new arena.
- Bill Meltzer


lol
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 30 @ 10:49 AM ET
Great Blog. I know most hate to hear about being second to the Red Wings in playoff appearances since 1995 as a show of how good the franchise is but it really does show that the Flyers are a good team.

Now to talk out of the other side of my mouth and say it does help that 8 teams make the playoffs from each conference.
Girouxy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phila, PA
Joined: 02.20.2012

Aug 30 @ 10:51 AM ET
the long term approach and building from within seems great now with the talent pool they have growing but I think they need to find and keep a good coaching team for a long haul too. Hopefully Hak and co are the guys.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 30 @ 10:52 AM ET
the long term approach and building from within seems great now with the talent pool they have growing but I think they need to find and keep a good coaching team for a long haul too. Hopefully Hak and co are the guys.
- Girouxy


Also teams taking a different approach to long term contract for UFA's & keeping many of their own picks also help
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 30 @ 10:54 AM ET
The Flyers are a elite organization. Anyone who doesn't think this is hating.

People worshipped the Colts and they only won 1 championship back in the 2000s right? With Manning, Wayne, Harrison, and Freeny...that's always the team I bring up when people say YEAH WELL THE FLYERS ' LAST CHAMPIONSHIP WAS LIKE 94 YEARS AGO!

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 30 @ 10:56 AM ET
The Flyers are a elite organization. Anyone who doesn't think this is hating.

People worshipped the Colts and they only won 1 championship back in the 2000s right? With Manning, Wayne, Harrison, and Freeny...that's always the team I bring up when people say YEAH WELL THE FLYERS ' LAST CHAMPIONSHIP WAS LIKE 94 YEARS AGO!

- Giroux_Is_God


At least the Colts have a Super Bowl win... unlike... well yeah you know
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:00 AM ET
At least the Colts have a Super Bowl win... unlike... well yeah you know
- dragonoffrost


The NFL's "model franchise?"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:01 AM ET
Bill, any hint on tomorrow's super secret announcement?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 30 @ 11:03 AM ET


DonaldDump
Location: It's freakin' hooge, MB
Joined: 08.23.2016

Aug 30 @ 11:04 AM ET
The Flyers are a elite organization. Anyone who doesn't think this is hating.

People worshipped the Colts and they only won 1 championship back in the 2000s right? With Manning, Wayne, Harrison, and Freeny...that's always the team I bring up when people say YEAH WELL THE FLYERS ' LAST CHAMPIONSHIP WAS LIKE 94 YEARS AGO!

- Giroux_Is_God


Elite might be going a bit far.

Consistently decent, maybe?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:04 AM ET
By the way, Uriah Heep is a seriously underrated band. Heck, I only discovered them earlier this month.
Willaged
Joined: 05.14.2014

Aug 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
Others have built championship caliber teams at least partially via tanking and/or moving or threatening to move their franchise to ransom a taxpayer-funded new arena.
- Bill Meltzer

AHH, love the shot at the Pens, supported by your hand picked numbers. If you do the same argument but say "Since 1990" the Penguins have made the playoffs 21 of 25 seasons, compared to the Flyers 18 for 25. And that's not counting 4 cups vs 0.. and 5 cup finals vs 2.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:05 AM ET
Elite might be going a bit far.

Consistently decent, maybe?

- DonaldDump


As an organization, they absolutely are.

As an on-ice team, I think they are, but I can see where that's debatable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:06 AM ET
Others have built championship caliber teams at least partially via tanking and/or moving or threatening to move their franchise to ransom a taxpayer-funded new arena.
- Bill Meltzer

AHH, love the shot at the Pens, supported by your hand picked numbers. If you do the same argument but say "Since 1990" the Penguins have made the playoffs 21 of 25 seasons, compared to the Flyers 18 for 25. And that's not counting 4 cups vs 0.. and 5 cup finals vs 2.

- Willaged


Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
lol
- Scoob

Haha yeah I almost spit my coffee out.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 30 @ 11:08 AM ET
Bill, any hint on tomorrow's super secret announcement?
- jmatchett383


If you think about it, you can probably figure it out. Why would the team captain and team president be the reps there?
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Aug 30 @ 11:09 AM ET
Actually its been 41 years, 15071 days to be exact. #haveyoueverseentheflyerswinthecup
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 30 @ 11:10 AM ET
Others have built championship caliber teams at least partially via tanking and/or moving or threatening to move their franchise to ransom a taxpayer-funded new arena.
- Bill Meltzer

AHH, love the shot at the Pens, supported by your hand picked numbers. If you do the same argument but say "Since 1990" the Penguins have made the playoffs 21 of 25 seasons, compared to the Flyers 18 for 25. And that's not counting 4 cups vs 0.. and 5 cup finals vs 2.

- Willaged


Feeling guilty much? You instantly knew which franchise has had two eras of tanking and threatened to move the franchise to ransom a new taxpayer funded arena. I never named names.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Aug 30 @ 11:11 AM ET
Hand picked numbers? He was listing the achievements of the organization since its inception in 1967. If I'm not mistaken, that's the same year the Pens came into the league, so it's a fair comparison. Take off the yellow/black colored glasses and go troll somewhere else!
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Aug 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
Feeling guilty much? You instantly knew which franchise has had two eras of tanking and threatened to move the franchise to ransom a new taxpayer funded arena. I never named names.
- bmeltzer


You're the man Bill! Couldn't have a better writer for the Flyers than you! Keep up the great work!
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 30 @ 11:12 AM ET
Others have built championship caliber teams at least partially via tanking and/or moving or threatening to move their franchise to ransom a taxpayer-funded new arena.
- Bill Meltzer

AHH, love the shot at the Pens, supported by your hand picked numbers. If you do the same argument but say "Since 1990" the Penguins have made the playoffs 21 of 25 seasons, compared to the Flyers 18 for 25. And that's not counting 4 cups vs 0.. and 5 cup finals vs 2.

- Willaged


The Penguins also drafted 3.5 generational talents in my lifetime - all of which have directly resulted in Stanley Cup Championships - 2 of which were the direct result of tanking (admitted to in the instance of Mario). Keep in mind there's a ton of teams who've never even come as close as a whiff to a generational player.

FYI: The .5 is for Malkin
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 30 @ 11:13 AM ET
If you think about it, you can probably figure it out. Why would the team captain and team president be the reps there?
- bmeltzer


Giroux is conceding the captaincy to Gostisbehere?

I don’t know, maybe something to do with the ownership/Ed Snider foundation going forward.

There could be any number of things. A new jersey is the likeliest, but I don't see why that would warrant a hush hush press conference.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 30 @ 11:14 AM ET
I love how quickly Pens fans melt at any implication that their organization tanked twice.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 30 @ 11:15 AM ET
Giroux is conceding the captaincy to Gostisbehere?

I don’t know, maybe something to do with the ownership/Ed Snider foundation going forward.

There could be any number of things. A new jersey is the likeliest, but I don't see why that would warrant a hush hush press conference.

- jmatchett383


Also consider the venue.
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